The Camp Factor

Jevon is talking about MoneyCamp – the unconference to introduce funders and entrepreneurs. Dave Weiner is talking about HyperCamp – a product launching and hype platform.

HyperCamp. You don’t have to be a geek, just a blogger. Bring your laptop. A long table, lots of connectivity, soft drinks, fast food, and get this—if you have a story you want to tell, a product you want to announce, an idea you want to pitch, at each end of the room there are presentation stations, with 15 chairs in front, a podium and projector. You sign up to brief. Any blogger who wants to listen can, or not; their choice

HyperCamp is a great idea. At TorCamp one of the ideas about building community was to provide a hype engine or a product review engine using the "camp" format. HyperCamp allows the network to decide what is interesting, cool, etc. The people provide the filter, i.e., good ideas, interesting products, compelling stories, etc., get talked about. Perfect.

I have concerns that this format will work as wll for MoneyCamp . Conferences like DEMO , Canadian Venture Fair, Toronto Venture Group’s Angel Forum do a pretty good job of introducing early-stage companies to funding sources. They vet both sides of the equation to ensure quality.

“Bridging the Gap Between Entrepreneurs and Captial”, VentureFair offers the highest standards in the business.

  • How does MoneyCamp ensure value to entrepreneurs and investors?
  • Do we need to screen potential investors and entrepreneurs?
  • How would you do the screening? Social capital? Dollars invested? Previous exit valuations? What?
  • Does it matter?
  • Is this different than other forums? business plan competitions?

It’s worth trying, but I am still skeptical about the value without more structure.

20 thoughts on “The Camp Factor”

  1. <p>Just a thought! Everybody keeps presenting their latest XCamps as unconferences. Unconferences means you have a discussion leader, not a presenter. Something like HyperCamp, DemoCamp and MoneyCamp are not unconferences, because the whole goal is to present your idea. MHO.</p>

  2. <p>Sounds like I will have to do the whole explanation of how I see this going down &lt;del&gt;- I thought the *camp tag was supposed to take care of that! ;&lt;/del&gt;)</p>

  3. <p>The *camp tag helps explain part of it. It is a question for me about how to ensure value for all pariticpants, why would Rick Segal attend? Is it just the inverse of the venture fair idea? Where rather than walking through the business evaluation, we'll walk through a tech demo and do some interactions. </p><br />
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    <p>I must be slow today!</p>

  4. <p>I don't think you're slow, I just think the idea needs work, which is what I was suggesting in the first place.</p><br />
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    <p>My offer of a discussion over beer stands. We may even decide the whole idea stinks, or that we need to do something different.</p><br />
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    <p>It's more about just getting people connected on some (any) level.</p>

  5. <p>I'll take you up on your offer of beer. </p><br />
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    <p>Are there any VCs or angels that are interested in participating in this sort of thing?</p>

  6. Just a thought! Everybody keeps presenting their latest XCamps as unconferences. Unconferences means you have a discussion leader, not a presenter. Something like HyperCamp, DemoCamp and MoneyCamp are not unconferences, because the whole goal is to present your idea. MHO.

  7. The *camp tag helps explain part of it. It is a question for me about how to ensure value for all pariticpants, why would Rick Segal attend? Is it just the inverse of the venture fair idea? Where rather than walking through the business evaluation, we'll walk through a tech demo and do some interactions.

    I must be slow today!

  8. I don't think you're slow, I just think the idea needs work, which is what I was suggesting in the first place.

    My offer of a discussion over beer stands. We may even decide the whole idea stinks, or that we need to do something different.

    It's more about just getting people connected on some (any) level.

  9. <p>I still feel like a camp is a sleepover related thing involving geeking out with each other like we did back in camp and showing each other the cool new stuff we found. </p><br />
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    <p>I dont see how Money Camp could work so much & as it is, each of the specific events (reputation camp, identity workshop, mashupcamp etc.) all draw investors and players interested in the space.</p><br />
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    <p>My idea here is not so much related to the money as it is the team. I always thought we would be better doing the startup camp, or team building camp & where we get ad-hoc teams built from different backgrounds all working on a unique solution to a common problem. If anyone is interested, I have more plans on how to do this and would love to do one as a BrainJams event.</p>

  10. <p>I see how MoneyCamp would work. </p><br />
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    <p>People who are focused on the business side of this world are interested in how the money part REALLY works. It works a little differently in each city, and even those of us who HAVE gone through the process and raised Angel and/or VC money shouldn't pretend like we know how it all works, or that it is all perfect.</p><br />
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    <p>I see good in putting heads together in a city like TO and getting real about the whole process. I think everyone who came would learn.</p><br />
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    <p>The idea is not 'come and raise money for your startup'. If that happens, bonus! But it is just as likely to happen at a BrainJam, or StartupCamp, or DemoCamp, or TorCamp or MashupCamp, or Summer Camp.</p>

  11. I still feel like a camp is a sleepover related thing involving geeking out with each other like we did back in camp and showing each other the cool new stuff we found.

    I dont see how Money Camp could work so much & as it is, each of the specific events (reputation camp, identity workshop, mashupcamp etc.) all draw investors and players interested in the space.

    My idea here is not so much related to the money as it is the team. I always thought we would be better doing the startup camp, or team building camp & where we get ad-hoc teams built from different backgrounds all working on a unique solution to a common problem. If anyone is interested, I have more plans on how to do this and would love to do one as a BrainJams event.

  12. I see how MoneyCamp would work.

    People who are focused on the business side of this world are interested in how the money part REALLY works. It works a little differently in each city, and even those of us who HAVE gone through the process and raised Angel and/or VC money shouldn't pretend like we know how it all works, or that it is all perfect.

    I see good in putting heads together in a city like TO and getting real about the whole process. I think everyone who came would learn.

    The idea is not 'come and raise money for your startup'. If that happens, bonus! But it is just as likely to happen at a BrainJam, or StartupCamp, or DemoCamp, or TorCamp or MashupCamp, or Summer Camp.

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