Comments on: Moving mountains http://davidcrow.ca/article/6899/moving-mountains Commentary about high tech happenings in hogtown Tue, 15 May 2012 16:26:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Rob Burke http://davidcrow.ca/article/6899/moving-mountains/comment-page-1#comment-4550 Rob Burke Thu, 06 Nov 2008 14:58:51 +0000 http://davidcrow.ca/article/6899/moving-mountains#comment-4550 Justice - you're making me wonder if *I* was way off base, or otherwise, if I was unintentionally being cheeky last week! :) By the time I presented, I'd updated every slide in the deck and re-jigged the content, I think, significantly. Several parts of the demo were changed to reflect better practices that have been discovered or enabled due to updates to the API since SL 2 B2. I also added a couple of things which were from my own work with Silverlight (the most obvious example being the FractLOL). I think it would be pretty unfair to say I more or less parroted another presenter's talk. Since TechEd, Silverlight and the communities around it have grown a long ways, and what's more, I am not in the habit of blindly delivering content in someone else's style (mine: full-on 78RPM techie action with more code, less death-by-Powerpoint :) ). Believe me - it would have taken a lot less work if I'd just run with what I was given. We presenters definitely had the OPTION to not tweak the content. But it shouldn't be implied that Microsoft Canada prevented us from doing so. I thought I was asked to be there to give a full and frank end-to-end perspective of Silverlight 2. If my understanding about this was incorrect, maybe I was being bold last week without knowing it. But I didn't get any pushback from Microsoft Canada on the content I presented, so hopefully, it's all good ;) hope that helps Rob Justice – you’re making me wonder if *I* was way off base, or otherwise, if I was unintentionally being cheeky last week! :)

By the time I presented, I’d updated every slide in the deck and re-jigged the content, I think, significantly. Several parts of the demo were changed to reflect better practices that have been discovered or enabled due to updates to the API since SL 2 B2. I also added a couple of things which were from my own work with Silverlight (the most obvious example being the FractLOL). I think it would be pretty unfair to say I more or less parroted another presenter’s talk.

Since TechEd, Silverlight and the communities around it have grown a long ways, and what’s more, I am not in the habit of blindly delivering content in someone else’s style (mine: full-on 78RPM techie action with more code, less death-by-Powerpoint :) ).

Believe me – it would have taken a lot less work if I’d just run with what I was given. We presenters definitely had the OPTION to not tweak the content. But it shouldn’t be implied that Microsoft Canada prevented us from doing so. I thought I was asked to be there to give a full and frank end-to-end perspective of Silverlight 2.

If my understanding about this was incorrect, maybe I was being bold last week without knowing it. But I didn’t get any pushback from Microsoft Canada on the content I presented, so hopefully, it’s all good ;)

hope that helps
Rob

]]> By: Rob Burke http://davidcrow.ca/article/6899/moving-mountains/comment-page-1#comment-10480 Rob Burke Thu, 06 Nov 2008 10:58:00 +0000 http://davidcrow.ca/article/6899/moving-mountains#comment-10480 Justice - you're making me wonder if *I* was way off base, or otherwise, if I was unintentionally being cheeky last week! :)<br /> <br /> By the time I presented, I'd updated every slide in the deck and re-jigged the content, I think, significantly. Several parts of the demo were changed to reflect better practices that have been discovered or enabled due to updates to the API since SL 2 B2. I also added a couple of things which were from my own work with Silverlight (the most obvious example being the FractLOL). I think it would be pretty unfair to say I more or less parroted another presenter's talk.<br /> <br /> Since TechEd, Silverlight and the communities around it have grown a long ways, and what's more, I am not in the habit of blindly delivering content in someone else's style (mine: full-on 78RPM techie action with more code, less death-by-Powerpoint :) ).<br /> <br /> Believe me - it would have taken a lot less work if I'd just run with what I was given. We presenters definitely had the OPTION to not tweak the content. But it shouldn't be implied that Microsoft Canada prevented us from doing so. I thought I was asked to be there to give a full and frank end-to-end perspective of Silverlight 2.<br /> <br /> If my understanding about this was incorrect, maybe I was being bold last week without knowing it. But I didn't get any pushback from Microsoft Canada on the content I presented, so hopefully, it's all good ;)<br /> <br /> hope that helps<br /> Rob Justice – you're making me wonder if *I* was way off base, or otherwise, if I was unintentionally being cheeky last week! :) <br />
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By the time I presented, I'd updated every slide in the deck and re-jigged the content, I think, significantly. Several parts of the demo were changed to reflect better practices that have been discovered or enabled due to updates to the API since SL 2 B2. I also added a couple of things which were from my own work with Silverlight (the most obvious example being the FractLOL). I think it would be pretty unfair to say I more or less parroted another presenter's talk.<br />
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Since TechEd, Silverlight and the communities around it have grown a long ways, and what's more, I am not in the habit of blindly delivering content in someone else's style (mine: full-on 78RPM techie action with more code, less death-by-Powerpoint :) ).<br />
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Believe me – it would have taken a lot less work if I'd just run with what I was given. We presenters definitely had the OPTION to not tweak the content. But it shouldn't be implied that Microsoft Canada prevented us from doing so. I thought I was asked to be there to give a full and frank end-to-end perspective of Silverlight 2.<br />
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If my understanding about this was incorrect, maybe I was being bold last week without knowing it. But I didn't get any pushback from Microsoft Canada on the content I presented, so hopefully, it's all good ;) <br />
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hope that helps<br />
Rob

]]> By: Justice~! http://davidcrow.ca/article/6899/moving-mountains/comment-page-1#comment-4530 Justice~! Mon, 27 Oct 2008 04:13:30 +0000 http://davidcrow.ca/article/6899/moving-mountains#comment-4530 Rob: Your understanding and my understanding of the content alterations allows differs greatly. That being said, i know that there are several presentations being updated because the original TechDays content wasn't up to the latest release (Silverlight 2 for example is a good indication and since most of the conference hinges on the Silverlight 2 push this is reasonable). However, this doesn't change my opinion on David Crows's post as I believe you are still essentially presenting the same slides/demo message frmo Tech Ed, only with a technical refresh. Am I way off base? Rob: Your understanding and my understanding of the content alterations allows differs greatly. That being said, i know that there are several presentations being updated because the original TechDays content wasn’t up to the latest release (Silverlight 2 for example is a good indication and since most of the conference hinges on the Silverlight 2 push this is reasonable). However, this doesn’t change my opinion on David Crows’s post as I believe you are still essentially presenting the same slides/demo message frmo Tech Ed, only with a technical refresh. Am I way off base?

]]> By: Justice~! http://davidcrow.ca/article/6899/moving-mountains/comment-page-1#comment-10481 Justice~! Mon, 27 Oct 2008 00:13:00 +0000 http://davidcrow.ca/article/6899/moving-mountains#comment-10481 Rob: Your understanding and my understanding of the content alterations allows differs greatly. That being said, i know that there are several presentations being updated because the original TechDays content wasn't up to the latest release (Silverlight 2 for example is a good indication and since most of the conference hinges on the Silverlight 2 push this is reasonable). However, this doesn't change my opinion on David Crows's post as I believe you are still essentially presenting the same slides/demo message frmo Tech Ed, only with a technical refresh. Am I way off base? Rob: Your understanding and my understanding of the content alterations allows differs greatly. That being said, i know that there are several presentations being updated because the original TechDays content wasn't up to the latest release (Silverlight 2 for example is a good indication and since most of the conference hinges on the Silverlight 2 push this is reasonable). However, this doesn't change my opinion on David Crows's post as I believe you are still essentially presenting the same slides/demo message frmo Tech Ed, only with a technical refresh. Am I way off base?

]]> By: Rob Burke http://davidcrow.ca/article/6899/moving-mountains/comment-page-1#comment-4499 Rob Burke Thu, 16 Oct 2008 19:48:22 +0000 http://davidcrow.ca/article/6899/moving-mountains#comment-4499 @Justice~! -- I have already made some changes to the content of the slides and demos I was provided to reflect recent changes to Silverlight, and my own experience working with the technologies day-to-day. I have kept the Microsoft Canada team in the loop about this and they have welcomed the updates. From speaking with their team, I am of the understanding they want us to deliver the most relevant and useful content we can for the audience. Speaking of which... I need to get that 'I'm speaking at TechDays' entry out of my blog post queue and onto my blog :) @Justice~! — I have already made some changes to the content of the slides and demos I was provided to reflect recent changes to Silverlight, and my own experience working with the technologies day-to-day. I have kept the Microsoft Canada team in the loop about this and they have welcomed the updates. From speaking with their team, I am of the understanding they want us to deliver the most relevant and useful content we can for the audience. Speaking of which… I need to get that ‘I’m speaking at TechDays’ entry out of my blog post queue and onto my blog :)

]]> By: Rob Burke http://davidcrow.ca/article/6899/moving-mountains/comment-page-1#comment-10482 Rob Burke Thu, 16 Oct 2008 15:48:00 +0000 http://davidcrow.ca/article/6899/moving-mountains#comment-10482 @Justice~! -- I have already made some changes to the content of the slides and demos I was provided to reflect recent changes to Silverlight, and my own experience working with the technologies day-to-day. I have kept the Microsoft Canada team in the loop about this and they have welcomed the updates. From speaking with their team, I am of the understanding they want us to deliver the most relevant and useful content we can for the audience. Speaking of which... I need to get that 'I'm speaking at TechDays' entry out of my blog post queue and onto my blog :) @Justice~! — I have already made some changes to the content of the slides and demos I was provided to reflect recent changes to Silverlight, and my own experience working with the technologies day-to-day. I have kept the Microsoft Canada team in the loop about this and they have welcomed the updates. From speaking with their team, I am of the understanding they want us to deliver the most relevant and useful content we can for the audience. Speaking of which… I need to get that 'I'm speaking at TechDays' entry out of my blog post queue and onto my blog :)

]]> By: Justice~! http://davidcrow.ca/article/6899/moving-mountains/comment-page-1#comment-4495 Justice~! Mon, 13 Oct 2008 23:36:02 +0000 http://davidcrow.ca/article/6899/moving-mountains#comment-4495 "It’s probably not obvious from looking at the speakers page, but 90% of the content is being delivered by non-Microsoft employees" But that content is still pre-approved TechDays slides and demos that can't be altered. I noticed that this wasn't part of your post for some reason... “It’s probably not obvious from looking at the speakers page, but 90% of the content is being delivered by non-Microsoft employees”

But that content is still pre-approved TechDays slides and demos that can’t be altered. I noticed that this wasn’t part of your post for some reason…

]]> By: Justice~! http://davidcrow.ca/article/6899/moving-mountains/comment-page-1#comment-10483 Justice~! Mon, 13 Oct 2008 19:36:00 +0000 http://davidcrow.ca/article/6899/moving-mountains#comment-10483 "It’s probably not obvious from looking at the speakers page, but 90% of the content is being delivered by non-Microsoft employees"<br /> <br /> But that content is still pre-approved TechDays slides and demos that can't be altered. I noticed that this wasn't part of your post for some reason... &quot;It&rsquo;s probably not obvious from looking at the speakers page, but 90% of the content is being delivered by non-Microsoft employees&quot;<br />
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But that content is still pre-approved TechDays slides and demos that can't be altered. I noticed that this wasn't part of your post for some reason…

]]> By: Microsoft Tech Days Canada 2008 at MasterMaq’s Blog http://davidcrow.ca/article/6899/moving-mountains/comment-page-1#comment-4491 Microsoft Tech Days Canada 2008 at MasterMaq’s Blog Fri, 10 Oct 2008 00:27:33 +0000 http://davidcrow.ca/article/6899/moving-mountains#comment-4491 [...] Crow wrote about this today too, and he says the website is a bit misleading. You should definitely read his post on the event. David points out that the primary innovation here is that 90% of the content is being delivered by [...] [...] Crow wrote about this today too, and he says the website is a bit misleading. You should definitely read his post on the event. David points out that the primary innovation here is that 90% of the content is being delivered by [...]

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