Comments on: Evaluating technology http://davidcrow.ca/article/1547/evaluating-technology Commentary about high tech happenings in hogtown Tue, 15 May 2012 16:26:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Colin Henderson http://davidcrow.ca/article/1547/evaluating-technology/comment-page-1#comment-1876 Colin Henderson Thu, 17 May 2007 00:51:12 +0000 http://blog.davidcrow.ca/?p=1043#comment-1876 <p>@Greg & Michele .. I would suggest that in todays culture, the concepts that Maslow intended when he spoke of physiological, and safety are so foreign to us that we may have forgotten. The valid issues you raise including security, prosperity, and choice, in the way you might mean, are all in the self-actualisation part of the pyramid, so its quite rational to re-prioritise there. </p> <p>The decision to take a risky job vs a secure job is not a 'will I have a roof over my head decision'.</p> @Greg & Michele .. I would suggest that in todays culture, the concepts that Maslow intended when he spoke of physiological, and safety are so foreign to us that we may have forgotten. The valid issues you raise including security, prosperity, and choice, in the way you might mean, are all in the self-actualisation part of the pyramid, so its quite rational to re-prioritise there.

The decision to take a risky job vs a secure job is not a 'will I have a roof over my head decision'.

]]> By: michele perras http://davidcrow.ca/article/1547/evaluating-technology/comment-page-1#comment-1872 michele perras Wed, 16 May 2007 19:36:32 +0000 http://blog.davidcrow.ca/?p=1043#comment-1872 <p>maslow's hierarchy & unfortunately a default in assessing human behaviour, irks me for many for many of the same reasons as greg listed. in addition.</p> <p>it doesn't account for agency and empowerment in choice & hence we see sacrifice or reprioritization of needs to achieve a goal. this is usually paradoxical, fluid and can be radically different over the short/long term. </p> <p>it doesn't account for morals, cultural values, social norms, there's an assumption that we all have the same goals and needs and means to achieve them. also, maslow formed his theories around 'healthy' people, excluding the 'unhealthy' as they would skew his results, and also discounting the affects of interactions and relationships between people and cultures. </p> <p>and it emerged as a way to perpetuate/mediate a certain economic system and consumption patterns, to keep us all under it's thumb. production and consumption values have changed, and we need to find other perspectives and tools that will help us understand that change.</p> maslow's hierarchy & unfortunately a default in assessing human behaviour, irks me for many for many of the same reasons as greg listed. in addition.

it doesn't account for agency and empowerment in choice & hence we see sacrifice or reprioritization of needs to achieve a goal. this is usually paradoxical, fluid and can be radically different over the short/long term.

it doesn't account for morals, cultural values, social norms, there's an assumption that we all have the same goals and needs and means to achieve them. also, maslow formed his theories around 'healthy' people, excluding the 'unhealthy' as they would skew his results, and also discounting the affects of interactions and relationships between people and cultures.

and it emerged as a way to perpetuate/mediate a certain economic system and consumption patterns, to keep us all under it's thumb. production and consumption values have changed, and we need to find other perspectives and tools that will help us understand that change.

]]> By: Greg Wilson http://davidcrow.ca/article/1547/evaluating-technology/comment-page-1#comment-1871 Greg Wilson Wed, 16 May 2007 18:28:35 +0000 http://blog.davidcrow.ca/?p=1043#comment-1871 <p>I'm suspicious of anyone using Maslow's Hierarchy to explain anything, given that it is so often false. People regularly sacrifice personal security for prosperity (take risky jobs for low pay); they also sacrifice survival for things as intangible as flags or their deceased mother's honor. In fact, I'd argue that the greatest forces for change in society arise precisely when people <strong>don't</strong> obey the rules that Maslow made up more or less out of whole cloth in the 1940s.</p> I'm suspicious of anyone using Maslow's Hierarchy to explain anything, given that it is so often false. People regularly sacrifice personal security for prosperity (take risky jobs for low pay); they also sacrifice survival for things as intangible as flags or their deceased mother's honor. In fact, I'd argue that the greatest forces for change in society arise precisely when people don't obey the rules that Maslow made up more or less out of whole cloth in the 1940s.

]]> By: Colin Henderson http://davidcrow.ca/article/1547/evaluating-technology/comment-page-1#comment-10940 Colin Henderson Wed, 16 May 2007 17:51:00 +0000 http://blog.davidcrow.ca/?p=1043#comment-10940 <p>@Greg & Michele .. I would suggest that in todays culture, the concepts that Maslow intended when he spoke of physiological, and safety are so foreign to us that we may have forgotten. The valid issues you raise including security, prosperity, and choice, in the way you might mean, are all in the self-actualisation part of the pyramid, so its quite rational to re-prioritise there. </p><br /> <br /> <p>The decision to take a risky job vs a secure job is not a 'will I have a roof over my head decision'.</p> <p>@Greg & Michele .. I would suggest that in todays culture, the concepts that Maslow intended when he spoke of physiological, and safety are so foreign to us that we may have forgotten. The valid issues you raise including security, prosperity, and choice, in the way you might mean, are all in the self-actualisation part of the pyramid, so its quite rational to re-prioritise there. </p><br />
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<p>The decision to take a risky job vs a secure job is not a 'will I have a roof over my head decision'.</p>

]]> By: Colin Henderson http://davidcrow.ca/article/1547/evaluating-technology/comment-page-1#comment-10941 Colin Henderson Wed, 16 May 2007 17:51:00 +0000 http://blog.davidcrow.ca/?p=1043#comment-10941 <p>@Greg & Michele .. I would suggest that in todays culture, the concepts that Maslow intended when he spoke of physiological, and safety are so foreign to us that we may have forgotten. The valid issues you raise including security, prosperity, and choice, in the way you might mean, are all in the self-actualisation part of the pyramid, so its quite rational to re-prioritise there. </p><br /> <br /> <p>The decision to take a risky job vs a secure job is not a 'will I have a roof over my head decision'.</p> <p>@Greg & Michele .. I would suggest that in todays culture, the concepts that Maslow intended when he spoke of physiological, and safety are so foreign to us that we may have forgotten. The valid issues you raise including security, prosperity, and choice, in the way you might mean, are all in the self-actualisation part of the pyramid, so its quite rational to re-prioritise there. </p><br />
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<p>The decision to take a risky job vs a secure job is not a 'will I have a roof over my head decision'.</p>

]]> By: michele perras http://davidcrow.ca/article/1547/evaluating-technology/comment-page-1#comment-10942 michele perras Wed, 16 May 2007 12:36:00 +0000 http://blog.davidcrow.ca/?p=1043#comment-10942 <p>maslow's hierarchy & unfortunately a default in assessing human behaviour, irks me for many for many of the same reasons as greg listed. in addition.</p><br /> <br /> <p>it doesn't account for agency and empowerment in choice & hence we see sacrifice or reprioritization of needs to achieve a goal. this is usually paradoxical, fluid and can be radically different over the short/long term. </p><br /> <br /> <p>it doesn't account for morals, cultural values, social norms, there's an assumption that we all have the same goals and needs and means to achieve them. also, maslow formed his theories around 'healthy' people, excluding the 'unhealthy' as they would skew his results, and also discounting the affects of interactions and relationships between people and cultures. </p><br /> <br /> <p>and it emerged as a way to perpetuate/mediate a certain economic system and consumption patterns, to keep us all under it's thumb. production and consumption values have changed, and we need to find other perspectives and tools that will help us understand that change.</p> <p>maslow's hierarchy & unfortunately a default in assessing human behaviour, irks me for many for many of the same reasons as greg listed. in addition.</p><br />
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<p>it doesn't account for agency and empowerment in choice & hence we see sacrifice or reprioritization of needs to achieve a goal. this is usually paradoxical, fluid and can be radically different over the short/long term. </p><br />
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<p>it doesn't account for morals, cultural values, social norms, there's an assumption that we all have the same goals and needs and means to achieve them. also, maslow formed his theories around 'healthy' people, excluding the 'unhealthy' as they would skew his results, and also discounting the affects of interactions and relationships between people and cultures. </p><br />
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<p>and it emerged as a way to perpetuate/mediate a certain economic system and consumption patterns, to keep us all under it's thumb. production and consumption values have changed, and we need to find other perspectives and tools that will help us understand that change.</p>

]]> By: michele perras http://davidcrow.ca/article/1547/evaluating-technology/comment-page-1#comment-10943 michele perras Wed, 16 May 2007 12:36:00 +0000 http://blog.davidcrow.ca/?p=1043#comment-10943 <p>maslow's hierarchy & unfortunately a default in assessing human behaviour, irks me for many for many of the same reasons as greg listed. in addition.</p><br /> <br /> <p>it doesn't account for agency and empowerment in choice & hence we see sacrifice or reprioritization of needs to achieve a goal. this is usually paradoxical, fluid and can be radically different over the short/long term. </p><br /> <br /> <p>it doesn't account for morals, cultural values, social norms, there's an assumption that we all have the same goals and needs and means to achieve them. also, maslow formed his theories around 'healthy' people, excluding the 'unhealthy' as they would skew his results, and also discounting the affects of interactions and relationships between people and cultures. </p><br /> <br /> <p>and it emerged as a way to perpetuate/mediate a certain economic system and consumption patterns, to keep us all under it's thumb. production and consumption values have changed, and we need to find other perspectives and tools that will help us understand that change.</p> <p>maslow's hierarchy & unfortunately a default in assessing human behaviour, irks me for many for many of the same reasons as greg listed. in addition.</p><br />
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<p>it doesn't account for agency and empowerment in choice & hence we see sacrifice or reprioritization of needs to achieve a goal. this is usually paradoxical, fluid and can be radically different over the short/long term. </p><br />
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<p>it doesn't account for morals, cultural values, social norms, there's an assumption that we all have the same goals and needs and means to achieve them. also, maslow formed his theories around 'healthy' people, excluding the 'unhealthy' as they would skew his results, and also discounting the affects of interactions and relationships between people and cultures. </p><br />
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<p>and it emerged as a way to perpetuate/mediate a certain economic system and consumption patterns, to keep us all under it's thumb. production and consumption values have changed, and we need to find other perspectives and tools that will help us understand that change.</p>

]]> By: Greg Wilson http://davidcrow.ca/article/1547/evaluating-technology/comment-page-1#comment-10944 Greg Wilson Wed, 16 May 2007 11:28:00 +0000 http://blog.davidcrow.ca/?p=1043#comment-10944 <p>I'm suspicious of anyone using Maslow's Hierarchy to explain anything, given that it is so often false. People regularly sacrifice personal security for prosperity (take risky jobs for low pay); they also sacrifice survival for things as intangible as flags or their deceased mother's honor. In fact, I'd argue that the greatest forces for change in society arise precisely when people <strong>don't</strong> obey the rules that Maslow made up more or less out of whole cloth in the 1940s.</p> <p>I'm suspicious of anyone using Maslow's Hierarchy to explain anything, given that it is so often false. People regularly sacrifice personal security for prosperity (take risky jobs for low pay); they also sacrifice survival for things as intangible as flags or their deceased mother's honor. In fact, I'd argue that the greatest forces for change in society arise precisely when people <strong>don't</strong> obey the rules that Maslow made up more or less out of whole cloth in the 1940s.</p>

]]> By: Greg Wilson http://davidcrow.ca/article/1547/evaluating-technology/comment-page-1#comment-10945 Greg Wilson Wed, 16 May 2007 11:28:00 +0000 http://blog.davidcrow.ca/?p=1043#comment-10945 <p>I'm suspicious of anyone using Maslow's Hierarchy to explain anything, given that it is so often false. People regularly sacrifice personal security for prosperity (take risky jobs for low pay); they also sacrifice survival for things as intangible as flags or their deceased mother's honor. In fact, I'd argue that the greatest forces for change in society arise precisely when people <strong>don't</strong> obey the rules that Maslow made up more or less out of whole cloth in the 1940s.</p> <p>I'm suspicious of anyone using Maslow's Hierarchy to explain anything, given that it is so often false. People regularly sacrifice personal security for prosperity (take risky jobs for low pay); they also sacrifice survival for things as intangible as flags or their deceased mother's honor. In fact, I'd argue that the greatest forces for change in society arise precisely when people <strong>don't</strong> obey the rules that Maslow made up more or less out of whole cloth in the 1940s.</p>

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